Compare and Contrast the goals and outcomes of the exploration process in the 15th and 16th centuries for China and Europe
China and Europe were two very different places, but in the 15th and 16th centuries they both had similar goals and outcomes of the exploration process. The societies of both these areas were trying to get advantages, however the Europeans had a specific group of people they were trying to take advantge of, whereas the Chinese had the world they wer trying to take dvantage of.....SHAKY AS A THESIS HERE, FIRST OFF, WERE THE CHINESE REALLY TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE WORLD? HMMM, I THINK MAYBE NOT, BUT THEN I LIKE YOUR ALLUSION TO EUROPE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SPECIFIC GROUPS, IN THAT IT HIGHLIGHTS A MAJOR CONTRAST IN TERMS OF MOTIVATION...WITH MORE TIME, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THIS, BUT AS IT STANDS IT IS NOT A CLEAR THESIS-MrViles 6/7/09 4:07 PM
The societies of both these areas were trying to get advantages, however the Europeans had a specific people in mind they were trying to take advantage of, whereas the Chinese it was mainly everyone around them. OK, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU HAVE SAID THIS GENERALLY...WHO ARE THESE MYSTERIOUS PEOPLE THE EUROPEANS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF...AFRICANS, AMERICANS, WHO? -MrViles 6/7/09 4:09 PM Both China and Europe did some trading to gain more money on their exploration trips. Bringing exotic gifts helped the Chinese to show the world that their society was wealthy. China and Europe also both tried to impress people and gain advantages. This can be said of China because instead of bringing just a few small ships to do some trading, they had many very large ships, altogether carrying about 28,000 men. Europe and China most likely gained some outside influence to their societies when they were traveling. China and Europe brought back gifts from the places they had been to give to their leaders. Both societies were most likely influenced by what they were seeing the explorers do, both were dooing something that had never been done before. This can be said of China because China had mostly developed internally but now they were exploring and trading going very far from home where there were many different cultures. It can also be said that China was gaining more outside influence to their society because Zhenghe himself wasn't the traditional Confucianist or Buddhist, he was a Muslim. BUT THAT INFLUENCE PREDATES EXPLORATION...YES? -MrViles 6/7/09 4:11 PM Europe can be said to have brought back influences on it's society because they had never gone so far along the coast of western Africa. There were probably 'PROBABLY'?.....YOU ARE A RAMPAGING, ESSAY-DESTROYING APE...YOU NEED NEVER USE THE WORD 'PROBABLY', YOU THRASH 'PROBABLY' LIKE A BANANA-STEALING SQUIRREL -MrViles 6/7/09 4:12 PM many tribes that Henry came in contact with when he traded for gold and salt.
Even though there were many similarities in the societies for trading, advantages, and influences, there are still some things that are different between the two. Europe was mainly focused on taking advantages over one specific group of people, whereas China was taking advantages over everyone around them. This can be said because China had many large boats and many men with weapons, and because they weren't sailing focused on one place, they were going all along the coast and to all nearby places intimidating people. Europe, however, was focused on sailing around Africa to avoid the Muslims and possibly have a military advantage. Therefore China was more about showing off to the world and warning them in a polite way not to mess with them. The society of China wasn't used to all this exploration, which is most likely why the expeditions were brought to an end. Europe however, only had certain fears and superstitions about rounding the bottom tip of Africa, but Hienry the Navigator still pursued this goal. OK, THIS PARAGRAPH IS MUDDY, BUT I THINK IT IS THE BEST SO FAR.....FINALLY YOU BRING IN THE MYSTERIOUS GROUP, AND YOU ARE DEAD ON RIGHT, BUT YOU MISS A CHANCE TO FLEX SOME HISTORY ABOUT COMPETITION FOR TRADE BETWEEN EUROPE AND MUSLIM MIDDLE EAST.....WHICH WOULD OPEN UP A CLEAR STATEMENT OF EUROPE USING EXPLORATON FOR TRADE VERSUS CHINA USING IT FOR POMP AND PRESTIGE, ETC. ETC.---YOU SEE? YOU HAVE ALL THE INGREDIENTS IN HERE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT COOKED PROPERLY YET.... -MrViles 6/7/09 4:15 PM
The geography of these areas both had coastline which made their sea travel, trading, and exploring easier, but China had previously been more isolated. The geography of the two areas helped them to complete things they had never done before. In addition, the geography helped them to gain the advantages they did. The sea helped China and Europe both to travel to places unknown to them. THIN...IN THAT THE GEOGRAPHY POINT IS NOT THOROUGH HERE..AND LOOKING AHEAD, YOU COULD HAVE PUT THE NEXT PARAGRAPH WITH TIS ONE FOR A MORE RELEVENT TREATMENT (YOU WERE VERY LIKELY PARAGRAPHING THIS WAY IN REFERENCE TO MY OUTLINE, BUT THIS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE YOU CAN LEAVE MY GUIDE AND FREELANCE A BIT)--MAKE SENSE? -MrViles 6/7/09 4:18 PM
In contrast, the geography also helped keep China more isolated before the exploration processes began, where as Europe had contact with many other civilizations and gained more from those civilizations than they would have if the Europeans had been isolated like the CHinese. China then used the geography in the 15th and 16th centuries to help them see more of the world, more trade, more exploring, and gain some power. Europe in this time period used the geography to mainly gain the military advantange over the muslims. YOU REALLY NEED TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS EXPLORATION GAVE EUROPE AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE MUSLIMS, WITH THAT INFO THIS BECOMES A ROBUST POINT THAT MAKES YOUR ESSAY, BUT WITHOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT THE ENTIRE ESSAY FEELS VAGUE AND UNSUPPORTED -MrViles 6/7/09 4:21 PM
In conclusion, China and Europe were similar and different in many ways with their goals and outcomes of the exploration process in the 15th and 16th centuries. They had similarities in thier society and geography, which helped both to gain advantages, explore, and trade. They were far apart in distance, but had similar goals and outcomes without even realizing it. THIS CONCLUSION HIGHLIGHTS A DANGER OF YOUR ESSAY, IN THAT IT ONLY HIGHLIGHTS SIM. AND OFFERS NO DIF.'S--IT COLORS THE READER AT THE VERY END TO THINK YOU MISSED HALF THE QUESTION. -MrViles 6/7/09 4:22 PM I JUST RE-READ THE WHOLE THING, AND I FEEL WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT YOU NEVER GOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH ABOUT THE MUSLIM ELEMENT---YOU ALLUDE TO IT SEVERAL TIMES (EVEN YOUR OPENING LINE), BUT YOU SEEM TO ASSUME IT MORE THAN DEVELOP IT....YOU HAD A FRAMEWORK HERE, AND I THINK YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY, BUT IT ISN'T ON THE PAGE....YOUR INSIGHT TO EMPHASIZE THE MUSLIM TRADE/REL. CONFLICT WITH EUROPE AS SETTING FOR EUROPE'S EXPLORING IS DEAD ON, BUT IT NEVER REALLY LIFTS OFF. WAS IT TIME? LET ME KNOW IF I CAN HELP SPEED UP THE PROCESS FOR YOU -MrViles 6/7/09 4:24 PM
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
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DBQ Amy
discuss the barriers women have worked for more equal treatment in society. Consider the goals and methods of such campaigns.
In many different time periods and in many different areas women were shown to have good influences in politics and society
In many different time periods and in many different areas women were shown to have good influences on politics or were argued that could have good influences if they were allowed to. In 1899 Anna Manning comfort showed this in The Public 2. Black people were very discouraged from having anything to do with politics, especially the women. She argued that the women were being taxed even though they "take up the white man's burden", most likely she was referring to the way that the white people made the women work just as hard as a man, and she thought that they should be able to get involved in politics and have a voice because they worked hard (Doc #1). In 1954 the Women's Charter at the Founding Conference of the Federation of South African Women had similar opinions. These strong women thought that all women should have the right to vote and be elected to state bodies. All laws that denied women of equal rights should be removed, along with removal of laws that restricted free movement, and prevented or hindered the right of free association and activity on democratic organizations and to cooperate with all organizations. These women obviously thought that women could be a great help and influence to politics because they worked very hard to achieve these goals and listed all their ideas in a campaign (Doc #2). Yet another example of women influencing politics can be seen in 195 B.C.E, by Livy, a Roman Historian. A new law had been made that limited women of using any expensive goods. The women banded together and had such a powerful influence that "after that there was no doubt that all the tribes would repeal that law". The women felt they should be able to use the goods because the government could definitely still afford it (Doc. #3). Closer to the modern day was in 1995 by a Nobel Prize Laureate, Aung San Suu Kyi, who said "no war was ever started by women", wars are often for political causes, so Mr. Kyi must have thought that women could have a positive influence on politics (Doc #6).
Another area where women were thought to have the ability of good influence was in the societies. Anna Manning Comfort, mentioned earlier, thought that it wasn't fair that women were denied their franchise even though they shared in the conflicts and labors of everyone else (Doc 1). In 1954 women wanted rights to make a difference in their society. They wanted equality, no discrimination, the right to full time employment with promotion oppurtunites, free education with the protection of mother and child, and proper homes. If these things could be achieved in their society, they felt that it would be a step closer to world peace (Doc 2). In 1995 the Nobel Prize Laureate mentioned earlier stated that in conflicts women and children are the ones who are forced to suffer, women have never started wars. Women have always been nurturing and kind. Therefore, empowerment and education of women will only result in good.
In contrast, there were some people who thought women would are a negative influence. In 100 CE, Ban Zhao who was a leading female confucian scholar and imperial historian said that women should always do as they were told. They should listen to thier elders even if the person was telling them it was the wrong thing to do (Doc 4). In 1820 Raja Rammohan Roy wrote about the ritual of burning widows alive with their deceased husbands. He considered it a kindness to society since the widows would not be able to remarry or gain money, and therfore would be no benefit to society, so it was a kindness to kill them in this way (Doc 7).
In conclusion, over many time periods in many different areas there were things to compare and contrast about the ways women attempted to get more equality and how they were looked at. One can compare the ways they gave to politics and society because both areas had good contributions from women. The major point of view in these documents was that women were very restricted but still did or still could have brought down the barriers and had good contributions and more equality. An additional document that could be helpful would be a document from Europe.
discuss the barriers women have worked for more equal treatment in society. Consider the goals and methods of such campaigns.
In many different time periods and in many different areas women were shown to have good influences in politics and society
In many different time periods and in many different areas women were shown to have good influences on politics or were argued that could have good influences if they were allowed to. In 1899 Anna Manning comfort showed this in The Public 2. Black people were very discouraged from having anything to do with politics, especially the women. She argued that the women were being taxed even though they "take up the white man's burden", most likely she was referring to the way that the white people made the women work just as hard as a man, and she thought that they should be able to get involved in politics and have a voice because they worked hard (Doc #1). In 1954 the Women's Charter at the Founding Conference of the Federation of South African Women had similar opinions. These strong women thought that all women should have the right to vote and be elected to state bodies. All laws that denied women of equal rights should be removed, along with removal of laws that restricted free movement, and prevented or hindered the right of free association and activity on democratic organizations and to cooperate with all organizations. These women obviously thought that women could be a great help and influence to politics because they worked very hard to achieve these goals and listed all their ideas in a campaign (Doc #2). Yet another example of women influencing politics can be seen in 195 B.C.E, by Livy, a Roman Historian. A new law had been made that limited women of using any expensive goods. The women banded together and had such a powerful influence that "after that there was no doubt that all the tribes would repeal that law". The women felt they should be able to use the goods because the government could definitely still afford it (Doc. #3). Closer to the modern day was in 1995 by a Nobel Prize Laureate, Aung San Suu Kyi, who said "no war was ever started by women", wars are often for political causes, so Mr. Kyi must have thought that women could have a positive influence on politics (Doc #6).
Another area where women were thought to have the ability of good influence was in the societies. Anna Manning Comfort, mentioned earlier, thought that it wasn't fair that women were denied their franchise even though they shared in the conflicts and labors of everyone else (Doc 1). In 1954 women wanted rights to make a difference in their society. They wanted equality, no discrimination, the right to full time employment with promotion oppurtunites, free education with the protection of mother and child, and proper homes. If these things could be achieved in their society, they felt that it would be a step closer to world peace (Doc 2). In 1995 the Nobel Prize Laureate mentioned earlier stated that in conflicts women and children are the ones who are forced to suffer, women have never started wars. Women have always been nurturing and kind. Therefore, empowerment and education of women will only result in good.
In contrast, there were some people who thought women would are a negative influence. In 100 CE, Ban Zhao who was a leading female confucian scholar and imperial historian said that women should always do as they were told. They should listen to thier elders even if the person was telling them it was the wrong thing to do (Doc 4). In 1820 Raja Rammohan Roy wrote about the ritual of burning widows alive with their deceased husbands. He considered it a kindness to society since the widows would not be able to remarry or gain money, and therfore would be no benefit to society, so it was a kindness to kill them in this way (Doc 7).
In conclusion, over many time periods in many different areas there were things to compare and contrast about the ways women attempted to get more equality and how they were looked at. One can compare the ways they gave to politics and society because both areas had good contributions from women. The major point of view in these documents was that women were very restricted but still did or still could have brought down the barriers and had good contributions and more equality. An additional document that could be helpful would be a document from Europe.
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